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08-30-2023, 08:34 AM
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Ultimates
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: High Hrothgar
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Originally Posted by The Dark Knight
It is not mistreatment, it is military training that turns a harmless guy who wouldn't even hurt an ant into a blood thirsty monster. Full Metal Jacket is the most brilliant anti-militarist film, i have ever watched. 10/10 I wish i had a chance to see it in theathers.
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I would say Kubrick made more of an anti war movie than an anti militarist movie. I don't get the feeling he "dislikes" the military in general. He focuses on the human psyche. He shows the horrors that man can do to man but also there are the good/better/less bad choices people can make when they are in a bad situation.
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08-30-2023, 08:48 AM
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Batman
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Michigan
Posts: 20,167
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the flash - 4/10
not enough to like for me, keaton was cool but i really dislike this suit they gave him. horrible, terrible, really bad cgi, a major downgrade from the story it was based on, i have never liked miller as flash although his barry seemed more tolerable but only after his more obnoxious self was introduced. i gave it a shot but not for me
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08-30-2023, 10:29 AM
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Phoenix
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Silver Spring, MD
Posts: 12,152
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The Flash - 6.5/10 - I kind of liked it. I much more prefer actual comics over comic-movies & this almost felt like a comic book. I'm not sure why WB just didn't go with the actual Flashpoint story instead of just bastardizing it. They really should of. Why waste the Reverse Flash?
Still, the 1st 2 seasons of CW's Flash tv show was a much better Flash on screen tale.
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08-30-2023, 10:34 AM
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#29484
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Jubilee
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Antalya/Turkiye
Posts: 4,274
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister H
I would say Kubrick made more of an anti war movie than an anti militarist movie. I don't get the feeling he "dislikes" the military in general. He focuses on the human psyche. He shows the horrors that man can do to man but also there are the good/better/less bad choices people can make when they are in a bad situation.
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I don't think there is any difference between anti war or anti militarist. Soldiers make war, if you are against war, you are against soldiers. You are anti militarist or anti war, they are synonyms. I myself have pretty messed up love&hate relationship with militarism anyway... lol My father is a retired soldier. lol
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08-30-2023, 10:37 AM
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#29485
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Ultimates
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: High Hrothgar
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dark Knight
I don't think there is any difference between anti war or anti militarist. Soldires make war, if you are against war, you are anti militarist or anti war, they are synonyms.
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Soldiers aren't the ones who make war. People with money and influence make them. Soldiers only do what they are told to do. I think that may be why Kubrick chose to focus on the soldiers in this movie instead of "makers" of war. Soldiers are the ones who do the dirty work and they also suffer from it, they die just like anyone else. This is where I'll leave it, enough of the heavy stuff for now.
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08-30-2023, 10:41 AM
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Loki
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lynden, Washington
Posts: 2,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister H
Soldiers aren't the ones who make war. People with money and influence make them. Soldiers only do what they are told to do.
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True.
I retired from the military after 20 years.
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08-30-2023, 10:42 AM
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Jubilee
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Antalya/Turkiye
Posts: 4,274
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister H
Soldiers aren't the ones who make war. People with money and influence make them. Soldiers only do what they are told to do.
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And how do the people with money and influence make war without soldiers ? no soldiers, no war. Soldiers are not the part of the solution, they are the part of the problem in my book. A big part.
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08-30-2023, 10:45 AM
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#29488
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Ultimates
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: High Hrothgar
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dark Knight
And how are the people with money and influence make war without soldiers ? no soldiers, no war. Soldiers are not the part of the solution, they are the part of the problem in my book. A big part.
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It would be a hell of a world to live in without any form of military presence. Like it or not, militaries are essential for any country. They also do a lot of good things. It's how they are used that makes the difference.
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08-30-2023, 10:50 AM
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Jubilee
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Antalya/Turkiye
Posts: 4,274
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister H
It would be a hell of a world to live in without any form of military presence. Like it or not, militaries are essential for any country. They also do a lot of good things. It's how they are used that makes the difference.
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No, i don't believe militaries do any good. Wars don't have any winners. You can't build anything good or lasting over corpses of people. I think we took the thread way out of context... lol
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08-30-2023, 11:03 AM
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#29490
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Ultimates
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: High Hrothgar
Posts: 9,707
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dark Knight
No, i don't believe militaries do any good. Wars don't have any winners. You can't build anything good or lasting over corpses of people. I think we took the thread way out of context... lol
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Nah, we just discussed the meaning of a movie that was reviewed and we disagree is all. No biggie.
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